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Julie Duggan's avatar

Do you think voter suppression and intimidation had anything to do with this in Texas? I don't live in your state and you are the master of what goes on there, I'm just an outsider that reads you- but I wonder if the tyrannical workings of Ken Paxton scared people.

Where does racism and misogyny fit in here- because I actually think those are the top two issues.

The most *consequential* election of our lifetime and Democrats stayed home just because they're upset that Harris floated too far to the middle. I'm struggling with that one. Nothing like cutting off your nose to spite your face. But then again I have seen a few comments from the far left who are super pissed at AOC for supporting Harris.

Perhaps I'm overly pragmatic, but step 1 is to save democracy, that means vote for Harris - Step 2 is to move the party from the middle to the left.

The Overton Window is completely fucked now, we will not get back to the middle in my lifetime, I'm 55.

I don't know when I'll get out of my grieving process, and right now I'm full of rage and hate for the Trump voters and the none voters. But they will find out soon enough what they bought..... because the Republican gestapo started taking their masks off already on Wednesday.

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Michelle H. Davis's avatar

Suppression and intimidation did impact us, but not 7.9 million votes impacted. Too many people stayed home.

Paxton is as just as much a criminal as Trump. Expect the worst.

Yes, I do think racism and misogyny were a factor, but I just don’t know how much. How do we measure that?

I like your steps

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Julie Duggan's avatar

And how do we explain that North Carolina selected a Democrat for a governor, Democrat for lieutenant governor, democrat for Secretary of State and Democrat for attorney General........ but then they turned around and voted for Trump because he won North Carolina supposedly? It defies logic.

There's only two possibilities:

1. Sexism and racism, and you almost have to exclude racism cuz they previously voted in black mark Robinson - which means sexism is the issue.

OR

2. Rigged

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tim koss's avatar

in my county......called the largest red county in the country by the R;s , we won Colin Allred,......a black dude , for Sentate........so i would go with 1.a.

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tim koss's avatar

BTW,,, NC is the shit!

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Dr. Fake Smile's avatar

Im mad at the non voters. The ones who “just couldn’t” vote for a woman. I’m just walking around Austin saying to myself “is this person a good person or a bad person?”when I say hi to folks. ‘Cause even here in Austin it’s a coin toss you’re a dumbass. Unfuckingbelievable y’all.

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Julie Duggan's avatar

Yeah, last night we went out to dinner about 5:00 p.m. when everyone was getting off work - I just looked around at the people in cars saying: there's a trumper, there's another trumper, and another one. I hope they never need help from me, I will tell them to call a red cap.

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Dr. Fake Smile's avatar

Your step 1 and step 2 were mine too. But evidently more than half our democrats are racists or misogynists. WTF

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Julie Duggan's avatar

It has to be misogyny - because this country voted Obama in for two terms.

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Lucy Frost's avatar

Or they didn't vote. Also, many won't consciously admit -- even to themselves -- their misogyny or racism. Personally, my sense is that, in addition to the major issue of inflation, too many couldn't imagine a woman leader of the free world. And even more powerful than that was the disinformation reaching people we didn't through channels we never touch.

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tim koss's avatar

interesting question: since Trump won, nope, never happened,

trump loss,,,,.bring in the national guard

i do wish Harris and Biden has said something about Trump being a rapist ,,,u know, just to remind folks of what they signed up for

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